Gaming Underground Network

Come for the mods, stay for the community
 
HomePortalLatest imagesInterviewsRegisterLog in
Search
 
 

Display results as :
 

 


Rechercher Advanced Search
Info Panel
______________
MOD MASTER THREADS:
FALLOUT
THE ELDER SCROLLS

______________


______________


GUNinsider
Fallout Miami: Mika999
Stay Connected

GUNetwork
Keywords
boomers ghoul wolfenstein machine FCOM Reforged boom upgrades riot Mask marvel hunk mandalorian money space Gear commonwealth NPCs vault Call daryl Superpele dead Ryse body khan
Latest topics
» Modder looking for gun mods
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Bset Yesterday at 6:33 am

» schorched enclave officer
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Smash96 Yesterday at 5:13 am

» Sup everyone (link funny shorts here)
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby DHB00P Thu Mar 14, 2024 2:29 am

» Late Introduction
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Battleclad Sat Mar 02, 2024 4:29 pm

» Greetings!
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Primus_Daibhidh Thu Feb 29, 2024 9:01 am

» Fallout New Vegas Stuttering And LOD Problems
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby gamerdude7892 Wed Feb 28, 2024 7:48 pm

» hello, here for porting tips and tricks to fnv
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby uxof Mon Feb 26, 2024 4:50 am

» (Fo4) fo76 Steel Dawn Weapons and Armor ports
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby DireTheRed Fri Feb 23, 2024 5:52 am

» So I tried my hand at modding...
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Bset Thu Feb 22, 2024 4:01 pm

» Guns you want in Fallout
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby DoxxxBoxx Mon Feb 19, 2024 10:33 pm

» hi i'm new person
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Jackfishproductions Sun Feb 18, 2024 9:00 pm

» What Fallout 4 Armor Mod is This?
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Skroge Sun Feb 18, 2024 11:15 am

» [FNV] Weird facial problem when using Dragbody overhaul
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby CommunistDragon Sun Feb 18, 2024 10:18 am

» [FNV] Some help with placing npcs in wasteland pls
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby TimvorixosGR Sat Feb 17, 2024 5:37 pm

» Fallout Screenshots XIV
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Smellen D'generes Thu Feb 08, 2024 9:06 pm

» New person
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby W0NDER0FY0U Wed Feb 07, 2024 5:29 pm

» Howdy pardners.
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby DVAted Sun Feb 04, 2024 11:06 am

» Suggestions for a Halo Themed TTW Playthrough
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby apatheticman Mon Jan 29, 2024 10:44 am

» who here is a mandalorian??
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby chazmister Wed Jan 24, 2024 3:13 pm

» Your favorite mods for F:NV
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Emptyby Ndf Fri Jan 19, 2024 2:29 pm

March 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
    123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
25262728293031
CalendarCalendar
_
March 2024
MonTueWedThuFriSatSun
    123
45678910
11121314151617
18192021222324
25262728293031
CalendarCalendar

Share
 

 Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?

View previous topic View next topic Go down 
AuthorMessage
nightfall345

nightfall345

Posts : 43
Join date : 2015-07-18
Age : 43
Location : Somewhere near the eastcoast

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 10:03 am

As this article another member will so kindly post under me since I can not link it says this and a few semi new things as well

_________________
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? 2DA6C53D6B7B1B9C4F2909FA49C4CF8C8CCA17FB
Back to top Go down
The author of this message was banned from the forum - See the message
Brigand231

Brigand231

Posts : 368
Join date : 2014-03-09
Age : 49
Location : Somewhere I shouldn't be

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 10:29 am

Thanks for sharing the link.

I really don't like how Todd Howard's response more or less admits they change things to accommodate the shooter fans who can't deal with RPG stats and that crits are shaping up to become JRPG style QTE's.  The more I read the more I see the franchise becoming a relocated Mass Effect instead of Fallout.  I hope I'm proven wrong or it may likely be the last Bethesda product I buy.


Last edited by Brigand231 on Mon Jul 20, 2015 10:32 am; edited 2 times in total (Reason for editing : Because typo)
Back to top Go down
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brigand231/
Pharah

avatar

Posts : 3430
Join date : 2014-05-13

Character sheet
Name:
Faction:
Level:

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:04 am

Brigand231 wrote:
Thanks for sharing the link.

I really don't like how Todd Howard's response more or less admits they change things to accommodate the shooter fans who can't deal with RPG stats and that crits are shaping up to become JRPG style QTE's.  The more I read the more I see the franchise becoming a relocated Mass Effect instead of Fallout.  I hope I'm proven wrong or it may likely be the last Bethesda product I buy.
They are simplifying the roleplay system to please all those lazy-to-think Mass Effect players who captured the whole game market and prefer to "Press X to romance" instead of reading and thinking, because people became too lazy to even perform their simpliest functions. I just can't imagine a Bethesda game which won't let me create my own story and think for my character. It's just more than dumb, but mods can save us.
Back to top Go down
nightfall345

nightfall345

Posts : 43
Join date : 2015-07-18
Age : 43
Location : Somewhere near the eastcoast

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:07 am

Aye priase be the mods!

_________________
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? 2DA6C53D6B7B1B9C4F2909FA49C4CF8C8CCA17FB
Back to top Go down
Brigand231

Brigand231

Posts : 368
Join date : 2014-03-09
Age : 49
Location : Somewhere I shouldn't be

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:25 am

Dio Brando wrote:
"Press X to romance"

The world is safe as long as that doesn't work in real life. Otherwise, they might reproduce.

Not sure how to even articulate this... I'd rather buy a game and support a company that produces something a bit closer to what I want as opposed to something close enough to be made into what I want. That probably sounds greedy and selfish, but if I'm going to pay for the service I'd prefer to order something off the menu at a restaurant and have it be right. If I or someone else needs to work on or modify it, I don't feel I should be paying restaurant prices. Maybe I'm just an old dog refusing to learn new tricks. Very Happy
Back to top Go down
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brigand231/
Pharah

avatar

Posts : 3430
Join date : 2014-05-13

Character sheet
Name:
Faction:
Level:

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:35 am

@Brigand231
Pretty fair, but Bethesda games were always more like a land plot to me which I would use the way I want. I would find it terrible to live on the naked ground (even with a good environment), but with a nice and beautiful cottage that I've built on it - I'd love this place. These guys just need to avoid making any limitations to their games or they will be definitely doomed, sooner or later.
Back to top Go down
BillyJohn

BillyJohn

Posts : 187
Join date : 2015-07-06
Age : 26
Location : UK

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:41 am

I'm excited for Fallout 4 but I feel they have completely ruined the dialogue system. I couldn't care less about the voice protagonist, but the new Mass Effect system is incredibly bad. Now why they decided to ruin it, I don't know. Probably to dumb down for a wider audience, not like it actually needed to be. I'm pretty sure the majority of people who are going to buy the game will actually know how read, rendering the new system completely pointless. Like others have said, if they continue this trend over to The Elder Scrolls I will not buy it. Since Fallout 4 isn't out yet I have yet to experience it properly. If I don't like it though, I'm not going to buy another one of their games that's for sure.

Rant over on the dialogue system. As for the article, after further inspection of it, all signs lead to the date being a typo. I still strongly believe that game will start when it does in the presentation, or at least on the same day.
Back to top Go down
Bmiasada

Bmiasada

Posts : 2
Join date : 2015-07-20

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:46 am

BillyJohn wrote:
I'm excited for Fallout 4 but I feel they have completely ruined the dialogue system. I couldn't care less about the voice protagonist, but the new Mass Effect system is incredibly bad. Now why they decided to ruin it, I don't know. Probably to dumb down for a wider audience, not like it actually needed to be. I'm pretty sure the majority of people who are going to buy the game will actually know how read, rendering the new system completely pointless. Like others have said, if they continue this trend over to The Elder Scrolls I will not buy it. Since Fallout 4 isn't out yet I have yet to experience it properly. If I don't like it though, I'm not going to buy another one of their games that's for sure.

Rant over on the dialogue system. As for the article, after further inspection of it, all signs lead to the date being a typo. I still strongly believe that game will start when it does in the presentation, or at least on the same day.

As a new player who has only played Fallout New Vegas, I probably don't have the qualification to answer this but I respectfully disagree lol. I don't think that one aspect of a game should ruin a game for anyone. Also, the dialogue for Mass Effect offers surprising depth even though it offers only 4 options. You might just be surprised with the dialogue system, I really think that the Fallout Franchise is a great game supported by a great community and not buying it just because of one aspect seems like a waste. Big-Hug
Back to top Go down
Vexillarious

Vexillarious

Posts : 129
Join date : 2015-07-19
Age : 26
Location : New Jersey

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:48 am

As for the date of the game starting in 2075, I think we're going to see a lot more of the old world than we think. It might act similarly to Fallout 3 where we start off a few years before 2277 and the game just fast forwards a couple years. Except in this instance, the player is starting two years before the bombs fell. MrMattyPlays talks a lot about this in one of his videos. This theory isn't really consistent with the demo, but it's still an idea.

_________________
Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? ShrillDimBlueandgoldmackaw-size_restricted
Back to top Go down
BillyJohn

BillyJohn

Posts : 187
Join date : 2015-07-06
Age : 26
Location : UK

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:59 am

@Bmiasada Don't get me wrong I'm still gonna get it, I just hate this new system. Why couldn't they just show us exactly what we are going to say, why must I pick from four options that only have three words to summarize what I'm about to say? I don't understand why they decided to do this, there was no reason. Why fix something that isn't broken comes to mind? Now they have just alienated the original fans and sold out for new ones. I honestly don't believe this was Todd's idea, but someone higher up in Bethesda.
Back to top Go down
huntman75

huntman75

Posts : 57
Join date : 2015-07-07
Age : 29
Location : Georgia, United States

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 12:08 pm

I am not normally one to discuss games before they are out like this but here we go. I don't think Bethesda is ditching the lore and in depth RPG style like everyone is saying. I believe they are just simplifying the way it is presented. I have played fallout since it's inception and honestly there is never really more than four different things to say to some. If you really go back and think through every dialogue you had with a character you just progressed through there dialogue til it was exhausted. I am sure that the in depth dialogue will still be there.

_________________
2/121st Light-foot


Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Wp_20113

KCCO!
Back to top Go down
BillyJohn

BillyJohn

Posts : 187
Join date : 2015-07-06
Age : 26
Location : UK

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 12:24 pm

huntman75 wrote:
I am not normally one to discuss games before they are out like this but here we go. I don't think Bethesda is ditching the lore and in depth RPG style like everyone is saying. I believe they are just simplifying the way it is presented. I have played fallout since it's inception and honestly there is never really more than four different things to say to some. If you really go back and think through every dialogue you had with a character you just progressed through there dialogue til it was exhausted. I am sure that the in depth dialogue will still be there.

The problem isn't too much the 4 options, but the short summaries you have to pick instead of the whole line.
Back to top Go down
patrikfroman

patrikfroman

Posts : 211
Join date : 2015-06-14
Age : 32
Location : Sweden

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 2:10 pm

The problem with this simplification is that it's doing it by introducing voice acting for the PC aswell.
With a voiced PC, it costs money to record lines so they probably wont have nearly as many different and in depth options for dialogue. I highly doubt that they've kept low intelligence dialogue, which is a shame because that was hilarious.

_________________
Intel Core i7 6700k - 4.4GHz
ASUS Z170 gaming pro motherboard
Corsair Vengeance 16GB 3000MHZ DDR4 RAM
EVGA GTX 980 Classified 1.5GHz OC
Samsung 840 pro 120gb SSD
Samsung 840 EVO 500gb SSD
Seagate 1tb HDD
Corsair RM850 PSU
2x ASUS 24" 1080p monitor
1x DELL 27" 1440p monitor
Back to top Go down
Brigand231

Brigand231

Posts : 368
Join date : 2014-03-09
Age : 49
Location : Somewhere I shouldn't be

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 2:17 pm

Dio Brando wrote:
@Brigand231
Pretty fair, but Bethesda games were always more like a land plot to me which I would use the way I want. I would find it terrible to live on the naked ground (even with a good environment), but with a nice and beautiful cottage that I've built on it - I'd love this place. These guys just need to avoid making any limitations to their games or they will be definitely doomed, sooner or later.

I absolutely love the way you explain that. Makes perfect sense to me. I'll try to shift my perspective to looking at is buying a creation kit with a nice Fallout adventure as a preloaded campaign.
Back to top Go down
http://www.flickr.com/photos/brigand231/
Ryumera

Ryumera

Posts : 240
Join date : 2015-05-04
Age : 28
Location : US, Florida

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 7:01 pm

BillyJohn wrote:

The problem isn't too much the 4 options, but the short summaries you have to pick instead of the whole line.  

This. I do not have a problem with a voiced PC, but when they summarize what my character is going to say, and he ends up twisting in a way I did not want, it can be a little... irritating.

A mod to display more of the verbal dialogue in the talk menu then the few words could be a fairly great mod.
Back to top Go down
qanakin

qanakin

Posts : 217
Join date : 2015-07-04
Age : 25
Location : New York

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 7:14 pm

I think I saw or read on yt/internet that depending on the type of gender you are. Some scenes could be different. I think that's pretty cool that way if you start the game over you can choose the opposite gender and see which scenes were different. Instead of having everything the same like in FO3 and NV

_________________
"If you cannot do great things, do small things in a great way."
Back to top Go down
BillyJohn

BillyJohn

Posts : 187
Join date : 2015-07-06
Age : 26
Location : UK

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 8:05 pm

Ryumera wrote:
BillyJohn wrote:

The problem isn't too much the 4 options, but the short summaries you have to pick instead of the whole line.  

This. I do not have a problem with a voiced PC, but when they summarize what my character is going to say, and he ends up twisting in a way I did not want, it can be a little... irritating.

A mod to display more of the verbal dialogue in the talk menu then the few words could be a fairly great mod.

I'm hoping someone will make a mod. It will probably take same time until it is released though, so in the mean time we will have to just deal with it.
Back to top Go down
huntman75

huntman75

Posts : 57
Join date : 2015-07-07
Age : 29
Location : Georgia, United States

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyMon Jul 20, 2015 11:55 pm

BillyJohn wrote:

The problem isn't too much the 4 options, but the short summaries you have to pick instead of the whole line.  

I see, well we won't be able to truly know if this is the only option for dialogue. I am going into this with a lot of optimism I know. I believe that Bethesda wouldn't betray the fans of Fallout who are looking for the features we are all talking about.

_________________
2/121st Light-foot


Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Wp_20113

KCCO!
Back to top Go down
kylekilla6

kylekilla6

Posts : 14
Join date : 2015-07-08

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? EmptyTue Jul 21, 2015 2:42 am

Ryumera wrote:
BillyJohn wrote:

The problem isn't too much the 4 options, but the short summaries you have to pick instead of the whole line.  

This. I do not have a problem with a voiced PC, but when they summarize what my character is going to say, and he ends up twisting in a way I did not want, it can be a little... irritating.

A mod to display more of the verbal dialogue in the talk menu then the few words could be a fairly great mod.
. I do agree with you I like having more control of the dialogue and choices of what to say.
Back to top Go down
Sponsored content




Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty
PostSubject: Re: Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?   Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters? Empty

Back to top Go down
 

Fallout 4 starts in 2075? gender matters?

View previous topic View next topic Back to top 
Page 1 of 1

 Similar topics

-
» What Gender do you use while playing Fallout?
» On matters of weaponry...
» On matters of style...
» New Vegas Alernate Starts with immersive plot
» Fallout History Book Chapter 1 Poll (Fallout Lore)

Permissions in this forum:You cannot reply to topics in this forum
Gaming Underground Network :: Fallout :: Discussion-